Mr. Johnson sounds quite pessimistic about the future of American cities but ends the interview with an oddly optimistic tone. Below are excerpts from the interview.
How about innovations for the American home? How will we be keeping ourselves warm or cool?
I don't believe in innovation. I think we'll probably go slightly backward in that regard. We've had too much and we can't keep the air-conditioning systems running that we've put in.
What about green grass and trees and fresh water and clean air?
Ah, green grass and clear water and beautiful air . . . it's a nice dream, uh, are we going to have it or not I think depends on what the people of America want.
2000 A.D. Radio Documentary (1966)